User talk:JORDAN DEBONO

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Toast  ltimatum  06:54, 5 August 2012 (EST)

Caption
Your caption on the Nintendo Land image isn't showing up because you didn't put a thumbnail around it (i.e.  Toast   ltimatum  07:14, 9 August 2012 (EST)


 * Thanks ToastUltimatum, I totally forgot about it. JORDAN DEBONO 17:24, 9 August 2012 (EST)

Admin
You have your admin rights here. ☆ The   Solar   Dragon  ☆ 20:57, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Welcoming users
You should subst the template in rather than just placing it on the page. Type instead of just  ☆  The   Solar   Dragon  ☆ 14:36, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry for any inconvenience caused, this is the first time it came to my attention, JORDAN DEBONO (talk) 14:41, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Signature
Signatures like that are OK on Mario Wiki, but basically everywhere wlse (including here), we like to keep signature images to around about the text size (19px). You can go a little bigger, but not by the amount you have right now. ToastUltimatum (talk) 14:22, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok sorry as you realised I just took it straight from there. JORDAN DEBONO (talk) 14:51, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Pointless redirects
Why exactly are you making pointless redirects? They aren't even for the characters... It's kind of like redirecting the Winston Churchill article to Adolf Hitler on Wikipedia... ☆ The   Solar   Dragon  ☆ 20:54, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Charlie Brown is mentioned in Snoopy (character) so it isn't totally pointless, at least not as much as you made it out to be. As for the rest of my redirects, the all feature in a game (primarily Mickey & Donald), and all have a small part written about them. JORDAN DEBONO (talk) 20:56, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * If the characters are in games, they should have their own articles. And, redirecting Charlie Brown to Snoopy as he is mentioned in the articles goes back to my Winston Churchill to Adolf Hitler argument. ☆ The   Solar   Dragon  ☆ 20:59, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't get your point, but if you insist remove Charlie Brown. But I will not accept the others to be deleted. Does GBA SP have an article for itself on this wiki? No, it has a redirect. Not even the Super Mario Wiki has an article dedicated to that... JORDAN DEBONO (talk) 21:01, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * GBA SP can stay, because the GBA SP is an upgraded version of the GBA that shares an article with the GBA. Charlie Brown is a completely separate character to Snoopy, so it should not redirect to the article that revolves around the character of Snoopy. Toast  Transparent U.png ltimatum Swadloon.png 22:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok I said that if you insist, keep Charlie Brown deleted, but the rest ARE part of G&W AND have small part dedicated to them. What's the problem there? JORDAN DEBONO (talk) 08:56, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Can you name one of the other redirects you made, beside Charlie Brown and GBA SP?--PSIWolf (talk) 09:31, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Minnie Mouse, Goofy, Donald. All these feature in the game Mickey & Donald, and so at least a small mention of them would be worth it. Check the recent changes to see what Solar Dragon deleted for me. JORDAN DEBONO (talk) 09:37, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Aha. And you linked those redirects all to Mickey & Donald? Well, I can explain why that is wrong, even though SD and Toast did so multiple times before me; Minnie, Goofy and Donald are characters by Disney, all appearing in Mickey & Donald. So they should have their own page, and not a redirect to some article they're only mentioned in, because that does not supply information about the characters.--PSIWolf (talk) 09:40, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I did NOT link them to that game article, I linked them to Mickey Mouse (character). Info is found in that article, talking about their appearance in the game and a tiny piece of background knowledge. Does that justify my act or is there still a fault ? JORDAN DEBONO (talk) 09:43, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * If you linked the to the page of another character, that's even worse. Minnie, Goofy and Donald are characters of their own, so they should have their own article. The article Mickey Mouse (character) is not about Minnie, Goofy or Donald and does not supply (enough) information about them either.--PSIWolf (talk) 09:46, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok I really do give up now. Have it your way and leave missing articles to be missing articles then. Creating a new article just for each of those characters is pointless in itself anyway. What are we going to write, a stub? We already have enough of those. Anyway, as I said before do what you (and the rest) want to do. Although about your final comment, GBA SP is not the GBA... but that seems to be fine. Oh well, happy editing, JORDAN DEBONO (talk) 09:51, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I did not make a comment about the GBA SP, that was Toast...--PSIWolf (talk) 09:53, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I know you didn't, but I haven't seen that deleted yet so it's obviously fine (with you). I'm not telling you to do so because I am all for that redirect; I'm just using it as an example as for why the others shouldn't be deleted. JORDAN DEBONO (talk) 09:55, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Look, the GBA SP is actually just the GBA with one adjustment, which means it is not something completely different. Minnie, Donald and Goofy however, are completely different from Mickey and thus should have their own articles if they really have to be included on this wiki. Get it now?--PSIWolf (talk) 09:58, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Then I invite you to create them and see how much (relevant) content will be put into them. And remember, no stubs are allowed, as said before we have enough to deal with. JORDAN DEBONO (talk) 10:00, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Did you even fully read what I said?

I quote myself: "Minnie, Donald and Goofy however, are completely different from Mickey and thus should have their own articles if they really have to be included on this wiki."

As you can see, I did not say we need their articles.--PSIWolf (talk) 10:04, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I fully read everything, thank you very much. But why shouldn't they be created? If they are mentioned, then they deserve some sort of recognition, even if it's a joint article called Donald, Goofy & Minnie. But please, for the love of Mr. G&W, let it end here, with everything as it is. If you want to create articles for them, please do so. If they are to never be mentioned on this wiki again, then so be it. All I will say is that I'm never touching any related articles to those characters ever again. JORDAN DEBONO (talk) 10:10, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * That is just what I thought. And you are of course free to never touch articles related to them if you want. Have a nice day.--PSIWolf (talk) 10:12, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I know I am free to never touch them again, thanks for telling me. And what did you think exactly? JORDAN DEBONO (talk) 10:15, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Stopping this shitstorm.--PSIWolf (talk) 10:18, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Well at least we can agree on one thing, although it was your choice to get involved in the first place. This was between me and Solar Dragon, not you and ToastUltimatum. And I wouldn't advise using harsh words, it puts down not only yourself but the wiki as a whole... Have a nice day. JORDAN DEBONO (talk) 10:21, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * You have got to be kidding me. You got every fact in that couple of sentences completely wrong. This is a wiki, and on wiki's everyone can freely edit and discuss things. If you don't know how they work, then why are you here in the first place? You are trying to start this again, don't you? Well, I don't think that's a really good idea.--PSIWolf (talk) 10:26, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not trying to start again, but you leave me no choice unfortunately. Of course you are free to edit and write what you like, so shall I revert all those deleted redirects? I think not. And I see I've just been prompted to leave, which I am considering. A real pity; my wiki knowledge is not good enough to serve G&W Wiki. And nobody forced you to comment on all this, you could've just sat on the bench like some others did, eating popcorn while I try to reason out with others. And if what I write is a fact, as you clearly said it was, it is not wrong. Facts are facts. JORDAN DEBONO (talk) 10:34, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Anyone can get involved in a wiki discussion, it cannot be made private between you and Solar Dragon. Me and PSIWolf had valid additions to this discussion, and we were free to post them. Toast  ltimatum  10:44, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Of course you are, but then expect retaliation and comments which may not please you, something PSIWolf is unfortunately not good at handling. Where did you get this idea of me restricting free editing, all I'm now saying is that I do not like the use of harsh language, and if it has to be posted on my Talk Page, I dislike it even more. I never once tried to make my convos private; I always answered as I saw fitting and never deleted something, even if I didn't like it. JORDAN DEBONO (talk) 10:51, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Answering comments and not being able to handle them are different things, you know?--PSIWolf (talk) 10:55, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm quite aware of that. Your point ? JORDAN DEBONO (talk) 11:01, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not going to waste my time anymore by responding to ignorant people like you.--PSIWolf (talk) 11:07, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your flattering comment; I could think of a few for you. It's a real pity it came down to this I have to say. After all, all people on this wiki share one common goal, to make this wiki a better place. Editors tend to forget such statements, and that's how petty arguments like this are formed. JORDAN DEBONO (talk) 11:11, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, I think it's best that if we stop this discussion because your clogging up the recent changes with this discussion. 13:59, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * It had obviously already stopped, but you're starting it again.--PSIWolf (talk) 14:05, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, if it had stopped already. You could have just said so.:( 13:10, 16 August 2012 (UTC)


 * No one posted here anymore until you came in, so it was obvious. And why would I have to tell you if a discussion has finished?--Sincerely, P S I W o lf  (T • C  • E ) 13:14, 16 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Never mind. 13:16, 16 August 2012 (UTC)